this guy’s takes are consistently bad

the novus ordo has:

- the Roman canon virtually identical to the canon of the TLM

- Eucharistic prayers III and IV that are very explicit about the sacrificial nature of the Mass with EPII still attesting to it

- offertory prayers that explicitly refer to the Mass as a sacrifice

- prefaces, collects, secrets, and postcommunion prayers that are usually completely incompatible with Protestant doctrines

https://twitter.com/kennedyhall/status/1729149860824146204

I’m very critical of what the reformers did, but the way forward has to begin with actually understanding the true intentions behind the reforms instead of relying on tabloid Vatican conspiracy theories about boogeymen prelates at the Consilium

I’ll just give one example: the replacement of the “suscipe sancte pater” and “offerimus tibi Domine” prayers over the bread and wine with the “benedictus es Domine” prayers

trads will say that the new prayers in not referring to the bread and wine as sacrifices means there was an intent to Protestantize the liturgy, whereas the actual issue was with the fact that bread and wine were being referred to as sacrifices before the real sacrifice was present on the altar, namely, the actual spotless Victim of Christ Jesus

and so in the strictest of theological senses they wanted to make it clearer that the Mass is only a sacrifice once Christ is present on the altar

now I think such a change is lamentable and is typical of the academic fixations liturgists have, but the intention behind it is wildly different from what you tend to read about in tradland

Jesus Christ, the Word Incarnate, is not only the the source of our redemption, but the singular overarching purpose, or omega-point, for which the entire Cosmos was created from all eternity

God, by virtue of His infinite, self-communicative Goodness, had always desired for the whole of Creation in its noblest expression to be united in the highest manner to Himself, the highest Good

This is fulfilled perfectly in the coming together of humanity (which itself sums up the whole universe in one nature) and Divinity united in One Divine Person, most fittingly, the Divine Person through Whom the world itself was made, the only begotten Son or Image of the Father

I genuinely wonder if this kind of thing has more to do with the Curial motivation behind Traditionis Custodes than some kind of abstract liturgical principle Francis wants to have affirmed

https://twitter.com/IvoryHecker/status/1623046550300532752

Do we really thinks Francis cares about the finer points of liturgical studies vis a vis the Roman rite? The question almost answers itself lol

The fact is the TLM primarily in France and the United States is a rallying point around some recognizable subsets of dissident, right wing politics

Thread attempting to reconcile Ed Feser’s and Lofton’s position on whether a Pope can teach heresy at the level of his non-definitive Magisterial teaching capacity

It seems that what Lofton wants to safeguard is the integral safety of all magisterial teachings that seems to tie in with the Church’s indefectibility

It seems that what Feser wants to safeguard is a dose of realism for approaching verifiably troublesome Pontificates, as it would seem that if Lofton’s position is taken to its logical conclusion, you’d either have to engage in mental gymnastics or essentially leave the Faith

Not saying Francis has necessarily supported any of the following, but if you’re worried about the future of the Church in general as far as liberalism is concerned, take solace in the fact that the gravest evils of liberalism are already condemned infallibly by Magisterium:

So even if the Pope were to call for a different approach to, say, the sin against nature, know it is already solemnly condemned as abominable by the Third and Fourth Lateran Councils (as well as by the unbroken and constant apostolic/patristic tradition)

If a Pope were to criticize Humanae vitae on contraception, know that its teaching is already safeguarded by the universal/ordinary magisterium as well as the solemn, infallible condemnation of Pius XI in Casti connubii (as well as by the unbroken apostolic/patristic tradition)

“let’s lower the bar to exclude the virtues of faith, hope, charity, temperance, prudence, justice, and fortitude and wow look at that we have the same morality”

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1366020327872946181

even if you whittle down the natural law to the reddit maxim of “don’t be an asshole” atheists are probably its most obnoxious and notorious offenders

they can’t exercise faith hope or charity because their primary object is God Himself; they can’t exercise the fullness of justice because they’re incapable of rendering to others due spiritual goods; the overwhelming vast majority proudly engage intemperate sexual acts;